Spawn at grey flag?

[[JiF]rix]

Last monday (CMM) I probably spawned at a greyed flag (according to Lonewolf). He killed me close to the flag and as "dead" I saw him
close to the flag and my spawn time counter was at 7seconds so I didnt thought I would be able to spawn there as it takes 5s(?)
to grey a flag and he had at least 7s. I did spawn there anyway and wonder if that is a known bug or other explanation why
I could spawn at a grey flag?(Question 1)

Is it always 5seconds to grey a flag? (Question 2)

The map in this case was "Toujane Tunisia" and the flag the most Northern-Western.

[[JiF]Mini Rambo]

I never understand this spawntime system at BF 42. Sometimes when you are alone at a flag it takes 5 seconds to spawn back and when one enemy is near it takes 10 or 15 seconds.

Last days i had it two time that i try to change a flag and enemy spawn in at a GREY flag. The player who spawn was not the same thus it was no cheater. I hope so

[[JiF]zougathefist]

When you create a map you have many options regarding the Control Points (Flags)
-you can adjust the maximum and minimum spawn times for players and vehicles
-you can set the maximum number of players that spawn at a flag at any one time
-you can set the place and rotation of where a player spawns
-and so on....
You can also change the Radius of the flag, so for some you have to get really close to the flag; like the lumbermill in Karden, for others like the frontline bunker in Gazala you can grey it from across the road.
the properties for capturing a spawn are all variable,
~The amount of time it takes to change to grey (1-60 seconds)
~The time it takes to change to your flag once it is grey (1-60 seconds)
~ whether the enemy can grey the flag if you are there or capture it when the you are close
you can also set whether people can spawn on grey, the option is called 'Lose Control when Grey'
so if you select a spawn and have a wait of 15 seconds then along comes an enemy and greys the flag, if this is set to no then you can still spawn at flag, as long as they don't change it to their flag in the time you have to wait
Some maps are set up this way, others are not.

[[JiF]Mini Rambo]

Thank you [JiF]ouerbestTeacherZougathefist
Now i know something more about BF

[[JiF]Blind Trooper]

I've always been wondering: what determines your spawn time? A RNG? How you die?

[[JiF]rix]

THX again for deeper knowledge of the BF secrets Zouga-sensei (Bowing to my feet).

[[JiF]zougathefist]

I've always been wondering: what determines your spawn time? A RNG? How you die?

this is determined by the parameters set by the creator
I.E. the Max and Min Spawn times and the max number of spawns at a control point.
so if the max is set to 15 secs
and the min to 5 secs
then your spawn time will lie between these numbers
If there are 5 spawn points at a flag and there are 6 people waiting to spawn one of them will have to wait the full 15 seconds
I believe that the spawn clock counts down constantly;
if you click to spawn at the instant the map starts then you will wait 15 seconds (based on the above rules);
if you click to spawn 7 seconds after the map started you will wait 8 seconds to spawn
if you click 14 seconds after the map starts, you will have to wait 5 seconds as this is set as the minimum spawn time.
this will continue through the map, so if you click to spawn after 4m38s you will have to wait.....
....Well, you get the idea

ZtF

[[JiF]rix]

Are these settings regarding spawns and so on for a map possible for a computer-noob like me to find?
In the console while playing maybe?

[[JiF]zougathefist]

The settings are adjustable in BC42 but to alter them you need to create a new version of existing maps or create a whole new map altogether.
There is probably a way to adjust them manually, but it would involve unpacking a map with WinRFA and finding the right code and changing the values there.
adjusting them in the copy of the map on your comp will not affect the server version, so you will still have to wait if playing online.
I do not believe that you can use the console to adjust them
If you want to do this for SP mode then I can probably point you in the right direction for tutorials on all the steps and fill in any blanks myself. but to be honest it is a lot of work for so small a change.
I think that there may be a way to adjust these in the choose maps screen when hosting a game, or with BFRM (provided you have FULL access to all of the commands)
i have not done this but you could ask Mike to check and he may be able to reduce spawn times.

If there is a specific change you would like to a map I could probably do it for you, PM me to let me know.
I guess I could alter the properties for some of the Custom maps quite easily but everyone would have to download the new versions again otherwise they will CTD when the map loads.

[Sir Die-a-lot]

Spawn times and spawn intervals are adjustable in the RM if you have the full access. Spawn radius and flag capture radius can only be changed by modding the map as Zouga the great pointed.

Darn you're teaching me new stuff every week !

[GERONIMO_les]

Thank you [JiF]ouerbestTeacherZougathefist